Dr. Joe Tatta: Welcome to this episode of the Healing Pain Summit. I’m your host, Dr. Joe Tatta. It’s great to be here with you today. Today we are talking about five highly effective pain solutions you want to know about with Dr. Robyn Benson. Before we get involved in the hub today, let me remind you that the summit runs life from September 12th to the 17th for national pain month. Make sure to share with your friends and family. All the speakers have put a tremendous amount of effort and quality into their presentation. So please share them with people you know, either chronic pain, persistent pain, or other metabolic diseases and syndromes. Um, don’t forget to join the healing pain support group. I have created a special private Facebook group for all of you this year. So make sure you get in there, support each other. Some of the speakers will be in there communicating with you, so it’s going to be a great place to support your healing journey.
And don’t forget. If you like the YouTube that you heard today, there is some share icons in the bottom of your screen so you can share it on Facebook. You can share it out on Twitter. You probably could share it on LinkedIn or Google plus. I’m not sure which one it is, but make sure to share it. So my guest today is dr Robyn Benson. She is a pioneer in the self-care revolution, which aims to transform lives and healthcare one person at a time. Our mission has been used by a lesson she’s learned and the wisdom and insight. She’s been on a journey as a doctor for the past two decades. She’s applied her considerable knowledge of acupuncture, herbs, IB therapies, cutting edge energy medicine to help patients achieve optimal, really sustained health and less pain. The founder of Santa Fe, so an innovative integrative healthcare center in Santa Fe, New Mexico. She’s a mother adventure enthusiasts, world traveler, author, speaker, embrace a holistic approach to 21st century healthcare. Dr Robyn Benson, welcome to the healing pain summit. It’s great to be here. Love this subject. It’s great to have you back for a year or two. You were a big hit on year one. So I really want to have you back to discuss a new topic. So today we’re talking about kind of the five key things that you want to share with your patients, with all of us on the summit on how to alleviate persistent pain. I know obviously as a doctor of Oriental medicine, acupuncture is one of the things that you use highly in your practice. Tell me about your journey into both, you know, being a doctor of Oriental medicine and using acupuncture as one of your primary go-tos for pain management.
Dr. Benson: Great question. Can you believe it’s been 24 years? When I moved to Santa Fe, I had a, I got an undergraduate degree in sports medicine, so you know, here I was just fresh out of college and I happened to work in physical therapy to think about that as a career. And I met a woman who, who was an acupuncturist when I had my first treatment with her. I’m like, this is so cool. And being a marathon runner at that time, she was able to help me with a knee injury and an ankle injury and pretty much that set me on a path because when I studied sports medicine in college, I just thought, what am I doing? Am I going to become an exercise physiologist? Do I want to become a medical doctor? But I have to say, you know, 24 years later, a hundred, at least a over 100,000 treatments that I’ve given.
Dr. Benson: It’s been an incredible profession and studying in China too was pretty, pretty cool. But what I really love about it is that in terms of this topic, pain, I’d have to say, you know, 80% of everyone who comes to me is seeking some type of resolution with, with an ankle injury, with a back back pain. You know, this is really how, how acupuncture is really known headaches. Um, I also work with fertility. What is so cool about it too is it’s, it’s quick. I mean, so many people get relief with acupuncture relatively soon after having a session. And very often it takes anywhere between two to seven or eight to get most people 90% or more out of any type of discomfort that they have. So it’s been a journey and I continue, you know, I still, it’s the primary a medicine that I offer my patients and also for the face, facial rejuvenation, digestive issues, and it’s relatively painless and most people don’t feel the needle as much at all.
Dr. Benson: And the fact that it’s, it’s natural that you’re working with your own body’s nature to resolve any type of, I want to say, you know, the way, the best way to describe acupuncture is that we have these Meridian system. It’s like rivers in your body and when there’s blockages, the way in which acupuncture works is it, it helps to move that stagnation that you know, the essence to that it’s moving. She, you know what she is, right? Jo, you work a chain in lots of ways. I actually just had acupuncture. I’m a good friend of ours, Dr. Lee. She’ll cough this weekend.
Dr. Benson: So please tell us more about you because I think it’s really important to people because I think a lot of people know about acupuncture. I’ve heard of it. They know it involves very fine needles that obviously get inserted, but give us a little bit more so cause I think patients want to try different options for pain management. So you know, explain to us exactly what it is. Okay. One thing I just want to mention is that tiny is medicine is the oldest continuous form of medicine on the planet. That’s does a lot and we think about, Western medicine has been around for a couple hundred years. So it dates way, way back in China and I, you know, to actually go to the forbidden city to go into these areas where these major Chinese masters were actually buried with their needles. I mean isn’t that pretty cool? I mean this is something that they knew that you could actually not only heal the body but work with with one’s consciousness and help with the way in which, again, let’s get back to the word cheat.
Dr. Benson: There are three treasures in Chinese medicine that are really essential to overall health. She blood and Shen. So CI is that invisible energy that is really important in terms of how our brain is function, how our digestive system is functioning, how our heart, how we are actually, how our circulation is, is operating at any given time. So what happens to day to day life in terms of what we’re eating, what we’re thinking, the toxicity in the world, the CI, this energy gets blocked for various reasons. So a good acupuncturist, a skilled acupuncturist will work with your system to help move the that blockage and very often like when you have an injury there, the the the blood, the is stagnant. So I can look at. the tongue, I can read your pulses and I can see that the energy is not moving very well through the body, not just where the injury is, but you want to move, move the energy to TCE, above and below any type of of injury.
Dr. Benson: So it’s really important to have healthy flow of how our blood, which is obviously the transferring our oxygen through our body is moving. And then Shen, this is something that I love talking about and I bet you after you got your treatment with dr Nalini, your spirit, have you, did you notice that you had a better mood? You just felt clear. Uh, this is often the case when people get treatments on our tables at our center. I mean, they could stay here all day and all night and if they didn’t have to get back into the world, they’d be very happy. So very often Shen, your, you have more color in your face, your spirit is lifted. Some of that, I call it density consciousness, just all those stressors, the hundred and 50 suitcases many of us are carrying in our shoulders is lifted with just one acupuncture session. So in terms of any type of pain, Joe, I really, it gets important to mention there’s the physical aspect of it and there’s also the emotional. So that’s another great feature of acupuncture is that people almost always feel uplifted. They feel like a total shift, like from how they felt when they walked in the door and when they leave. I have a completely different person.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Yeah. One of the things that I realized each time, acupuncture is that I always have a feeling of a relief, a little bit anxiety and just, you know, a general feeling of wellbeing or something is really important because people in pain, oftentimes they are struggling with a little bit of being anxious or a little bit of depression or some good imbalances. So I think that part of it is so key for them.
Dr. Benson: Absolutely. You know, especially in today’s world, I mean there’s an epidemic literally of anxiety, depression and pain and to have a modality acupuncture that’s trusted and has been around, you know, for all this time and it’s immediate. It’s just really nice that people can get this service and it’s also pretty awesome. It’s certainly in Santa Fe, New Mexico, but around the country that insurance cover, insurance companies are covering acupuncture and it just, it helps, you know, avoid, for many people it helps to avoid the use of prescription drugs. It helps avoid surgery. As we go on along further in our conversation today, I’ll share some of my other great pain reliever tools that has, I can’t tell you how many people have canceled her surgery because of it.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Excellent. So I know as part of the free gift for our viewers and listeners of the summit, you have a free book ebook on our thing, but I think it’s really fascinating because it really takes you on two different levels. Obviously we’re talking about acupuncture. You buddy, you have a whole nother spectrum of your, you know, experience and expertise. So tell us about earthing and what that really means for someone in today’s society.
Dr. Benson: Hmm. Okay. So this is related to a quite an amazing story. My own personal life. In 2008 I was struggling actually with a lifelong issue with sleep and it was through understanding the, how critical it is that we’re in the healthy frequencies of the earth in terms of keeping our yin and yang of her body, which is all Chinese medicine, right? A lot of us are living over amped or sympathetic male part of our body. Just go, go, go, go, go. And what we really need is that digest and rest. So the earth has this field around it, these healthy electromagnetic field that’s in the range of people probably have heard of the Schumann resonance like point, 0.5 to 25 Hertz. So let me just say this really slowly. So it’s what I call the Holy spark. These low energy frequencies of the earth, the Schumann resonance that is necessary for every single cell in your body to actually function well.
Dr. Benson: So earthing, you know, there’s this great book I had right here in my bookcase, um, by Clint Ober and it basically helps us understand that what is necessary for us to feel good and a day to day basis is to be outdoors and in these frequencies as much as possible. So if we’re designed, so the think about in terms of pain too, if we’re designed to be in this human residence, which is literally about 11 Hertz, like seven to 11 Hertz or the biological window is that zero to 25 Hertz. I’m going to say this really slowly. You get it. This is healthy. This is the healthy area in which all like depends and a cell phone is 900 megahertz. Your wifi that’s turned on is about two gigahertz and beyond. So we’ve got smart meters, we’ve got all kinds of artificial forms of frequencies that are very difficult for our biology to even work.
Dr. Benson: Therefore, if our biology’s turned down, our chemistry is not working as much as is as good as possible. So earthing is about being outdoors, it’s being barefoot, it’s going to the beach as much as possible. A dr Joe, I know that you love to go to your, your home in Connecticut, right? Doesn’t that like a refresh place for you? You get out of the city and you get to be outdoors and be in the water. I mean that’s Irving. So getting out as much as possible, especially if you live in an urban area and if you live in the 10th floor, you want to spend as much time. I mean I recommend 20 minutes to an hour every single day that people have to be outside to really feel good. And what’s happening to right now is that people are spending like 90% of their entire life indoors or more.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Yeah, that’s scary. Even people who live in nice climates, I mean New York city sometimes called in the winter, I’m lucky enough if you live in New York city, you know, you kind of get out in your walk around cause you kind of have to. But you know, like you said, I really um, promote the opportunity to get outside as much as possible. You know, at first I think, I think people would become very conscious of their vitamin D levels and obviously vitamin D levels direct, you know, are directly correlated with pants. Everyone should have their vitamin D level checked. But I think the earthing thing is really fascinating because you’re talking about a whole different frequency. And have we been able to really measure that yet? And how can, how does someone know if they had been out enough for instance?
Dr. Benson: That’s, that’s a really good question. Um, very often ways in which we can tell how healthy people are in terms of their cellular health is to actually do love blood cell analysis. You also just a questionnaire can help under me understand if someone’s been out enough. But even my, I’m Dutch and a lot of, you know, big time athletes here and tend to think that they’re outdoors a lot. But when I ask people to do it, a journal, like an earthen journal, like how much are you outside? Very rarely is anybody outdoors more than five hours. A whole in a whole week.
Dr. Joe Tatta: That’s great.
Dr. Benson: Excuse me. That’s absolutely crazy. The other part of his earthing peace, I mean to, to really feel good indoors better, you know, cause we are endorsed that much is to know the word electro hygiene and electro sanitisation. So this free book that I’m giving you happens to be about 150 pages of incredible interviews with some of the top names in this field. Like dr Monta harvests. I mean, she’s a, uh, Trent university professor in Canada. I mean, she’s, uh, a leading expert on the health hazards of living indoors, living in these electrified times. I call it a Lectra fried times literally, and how that affects our blood sugar levels, how it affects our cited or metabolism and how it’s relating to this serious, uh, syndrome. Um, you know, bad moods diabetes, obesity and um, no why so many people are depressed. So it’s a, it’s a serious issue, so I can just look at someone’s blood to it to see if they’re, you know, red blood cells. Yeah. If their markers are pretty high, that means that the red blood cells are staying clumped together. So through earthing it helps red blood cells, again, carry our oxygen so it helps to repel the red blood cells and you’re getting more oxygen in your detoxing, more efficient, efficiently. That’s what true earthing is all about.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Excellent. I think it’s really great information, especially, you know, I live in a relatively large city and I always look at the wifi connection. I see. I get people’s wifi from probably about 50 different apartments. So I always think you know, what’s going on as far as a electromagnetic, you know, way to our bodies and more and more, more people live in big cities and you don’t need to get out more to practice some of these concepts.
Dr. Benson: Turn off your wifi. Even though you live in an apartment complex, you should turn your wifi off in your apartment and for everybody listening to unplug literally anything within three feet of your head every single night. This electro sensitization is amazing in terms of the impact. Like so many of my patients, even in Santa Fe that start practicing this, uh, can tell a total difference. I mean, they, they rest more, more deeply. Um, they don’t wake up in the night is often, I mean, these, we can understand that these frequencies are static. There’s so irritating. When I actually do talks all around the country and internationally and I demonstrate what this is. Frequencies, this wifi, your cell phones, your lights, switches, what is actually emanating from there. It’s like Holy, Holy crap. Like this is what I’m living in. No wonder I’m stressed. No wonder I’m having tall petitions, no wonder I can’t focus.
Dr. Benson: And it’s um, and also people get open again that overamped overwhelmed. What I try to teach people, all my clients and for all of you listening is that you want to go from being over amped to being living amplified. Well, your voltage of your body is really healthy. That you’re getting this wonderful flow of she from toe to head and that you wake up in the morning refreshing, you go to bed feeling pretty darn good and you get that deep restful sleep that is so important in terms of your, of your growth factors and um, how your body repairs.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Excellent. Some really great take homes. Now I know in your daily practice at Santa Fe soul in Santa Fe, New Mexico, you practice something called Prolozone. Explain to us what problem is. It’s something that’s relatively, not necessarily new, but it’s being used more and more. And I know you are going to focus on, you know, using it in your practice more as well as training some people. But tell us exactly what Prolozone is.
Dr. Benson: So it’s in today’s discussion, I’m bringing you like my top five again, I have, I, I’m forever learning, I’m, I’m traveling all the time to learn from some of the top people in the world on this issue of pain. And I have to say I’ve been doing injections for the last 20 years and the last 14 years I’ve been doing Prolozone and I’ve also trained in prolotherapy, prolotherapy and PRP. But the number one injection that I do here that is revolutionizing people’s lives, it doesn’t cost a lot of money. And this is really important because PRP, if you have had that, you can know it’s about a thousand dollars on, on up. Prolozone is about, you know, a hundred to $200 and sometimes people need two or three or more injections at a time. This is the most miraculous thing that I do in my practice. And so what Prolozone is, is I’m actually injecting a proliferative agent into your shoulder, into your angle, into your knee, which includes procaine in B12.
Dr. Benson: And I asked us love to put ocean water in that is injected first. And what that does, it’s good for, for um, paying management certainly. And it just helps, um, to bring a lot of comfort to that area. Before I add, Oh, zone, yes, it was on as a guest and you’re thinking, Oh my God, how come you put a gas into the body in that? How can that possibly move me? Pain was on, it’s pretty amazing. It’s an electron donor and it actually, you know, breaks down into the system and into oxygen so you highly oxygenate tissue that’s been damaged so very, very quickly. When I, after I do the proliferative agent and then add the ozone, I mean, people will get off the table and their needs is already 50% better, but especially within seven to 10 days, you’re sending a message to that part of the body that there’s some trauma in the brain is partners with this to send all the human agents to that area. And it’s pretty remarkable. I mean like I have a guy who was, who was, um, set for shoulder surgery this month and he canceled it because he’s like, I can’t believe that with just three sessions of Prolozone that an MRI revealed an actual rotator, a tear, another full tear, but a partial tear in two different places. So I go to those areas with the Prolozone. Again, the proliferative agent followed by the ozone and you know, full range of motion, no pain, and just thrilled. I mean, it actually goes in there and helps to restore healthy ligaments, healthy cartilage. The only time I’d say when this is not a good choice, it’s when it’s bone against bone. Like I have even then though, I had a client recently who I worked in the movie business and she’s born against bone.
Dr. Benson: She, her, there’s no way she can have her surgery. It’s six months out. So we did a total of eight Prolozone injections and when she flew to California to have her inject her hip replacement, the doctor said, I’ve never ever seen anyone heal as quickly as you did from this hip surgery hip replacement. And she clearly it to rebid it to the fact that we were putting healthy oxygen into that area and we would ever tissue that she had. We were restoring healthy blood flow. So just to give you an example of something that is so, so amazing in terms of how quick people get res response people, even if you had 20 years ago, you’re listening to this and you had an ankle sprain and you sprained it, you know, couple of times, more than likely you have some type of arthritis there and more than like more than likely they have scar tissue.
Dr. Benson: So even in this situation I inject with Prolozone into ankles and that helps to stop this arthritic changes and it helps to restore healthy tissue. So pretty phenomenal. That is like pretty one the outside of my acupuncture treatments. That’s the number one thing I do. And it just brings such joy to people’s lives. And people fly in from all over the place due to podcasts like this summit because people want solutions. They really want, they don’t want to have surgery and they know that there’s another possibility out there. And this is one of the best. And uh, so I just think for this pain summit, and I know your book too, this coming out, um, just for people to know that this is an incredible opportunity for you to consider
Dr. Joe Tatta: and what are the, what are some of the more common diagnoses that someone may consider Prolozone for
Dr. Benson: a herniated disc? So I had a woman recently that had a herniated disc in her neck and she could barely lift her her shoulder. So I w just inject rate into the kind of the, this, that areas, which what’s really cool about Prolozone, you know, compared to prolotherapy is you don’t have to do as many injections, but the, the ozone is a gas what spreads. So it covers a big area. So herniated disc, also arthritis in hands, people with a carpal tunnel when when I do a carpal tunnel kind of tunnel, um, injection with Prolozone, I put the proliferative agent kind of like right under between these two tendons and I thread it right to this area and then I add the ozone to it. So incredible for carpal tunnel, um, also, uh, hips, people that have any type of hip degeneration. So I take a four inch needle and, and go deep inside. Okay. Telling me people, they’re like, I’ve got to go to Bali tomorrow or I am speaking to 5,000 people and my back is in pain, will come to me and the next day they’re on the plane. Pretty awesome.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Awesome. So immediate kind of results or recovery from that. Awesome. So I know you’re also doing some really kind of inventive things in the world of women’s pelvic health, working with pelvic pain. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Cause I know it also involves some other types of injections that you, that you worked with. Yeah. I just want
Dr. Benson: to mention that the amount of women with pelvic pain or any type of sexual dysfunction or incontinence is crazy high. Like 50 over 50 million women in the United States suffer from one of these three things. So the best thing that I offer these women, I mean I can say it is absolutely life changing and it is called, it’s called PRP, platelet rich plasma. And it’s also known as the P shot or the O-Shot P shot and men O-Shot and women. And what I do is I extract your platelet rich plasma so I take but from your arm, put it in an FDA approved centrifuge and that is where I drive your platelet rich plasma. And I inject it internationally into two different places. So with women with pelvic pain that have any type of pelvic floor, um, issues like very often as we age, so many women, we just don’t have the integrity of the tissue in our vaginal urethra area.
Dr. Benson: And so I inject it internationally and also around the clitoral area. Cause you won’t believe how many women have issues in that area or lack of sensation due to riding horses all the time due to some type of sexual trauma. And also, um, pelvic pain. So when I put PRP in those areas, it helps. That whole orgasmic system is also called the orgiastic system. It’s a system in the body that gets totally left out. We know about the respiratory system and we know about the digestive system. There are like all these major systems, but we don’t realize how important that system is to keep really healthy throughout life. And as women get older, I can’t tell you how many women end up with some type of a pelvic pain issue. Sometimes. Like most recent women that I treated with pelvic pain didn’t yoga, stretch over, did a stretch and, and ended up doing some injury to that peduncle nerve down there.
Dr. Benson: So not only did I do the vaginal and the clitoral injections, which by the way, I can’t eat like hardly any pain at all to do this PRP in that area of the body. But I will go into, you know, find out where the actual pain is, like is it near the issue of tuberosity or go into the Lavia area. Um, and I’ll, uh, inject into that area and it’s pretty amazing. So my own personal story, like with my O-Shot was little did I know that I did have some pain that I felt on at certain times. And little did I know that that was caused by my second childbirth, something that a pad like low grade for years, but never anything that I ever got treated until I had my O-Shot done. And I thought that there was, before the doctor did the injection, I said, you know, I feel there’s some type of dryness there.
Dr. Benson: Somebody doesn’t feel comfortable. And he was able to see that I had scar tissue and that was injected with the PRP. So I have done this with several of my own patients because you know, a lot of women have two, three, four or five babies in a lifetime. And very often there’s a lot of tearing and there. So this is pretty revolutionary, Joe. I mean to think that really the choices, they’re not many good choices unfortunately have physical therapists like you and others that are just a specialist in pelvic floor issues. But in terms of the drug options are not many people can do kegels and then that helps. But pretty injecting with your own platelet rich, rich plasma, which is rich with growth factors, it actually grows healthy new tissue and the blood vessels to that area. So bam, it’s like, it’s incredible how quickly this helps. And for so many women again with um, that have absolutely no libido or just feel that they can’t resolve 10 or 20 year history of incontinence. This is a solution. I’m a solution girl. Love it. So four years later, this is like my focus. I just love these, the solutions that really quickly help people get back into action and doing their life and the way that they want to.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Yeah, no, it’s great cause pelvic pain, you know, treatments for pelvic pain have become more popular, but it still has a long, long way to go with, to help women with, you know, two types of pelvic pain over dinner, you know, things like that. But just regarding the injections for the, for the PRP, for the pelvis, how many do does someone need?
Dr. Benson: Well, you know what, a lot of times just one, it really depends on the situation and how old the patient is and how healthy. Uh, so very often one will do wonders. And very often in this situation I might, the second visit, if we feel like we need more, I might just do Prolozone. I’ve had great success with pelvic pain with just the Prolozone, but especially the PRP. I actually, I think that most women, you know, anyone over 50 should consider getting the O-Shot because most, it’s a number one reason that people end up in a nursing home is some type of incontinence issue. But, so getting back to your question, it just, it’s, it’s individual, but I’d say in most cases, two of these Oh shots. And maybe, you know, a backup Prolozone is really all, but you know that getting women who, like I said no to sex because it’s so traumatic.
Dr. Benson: And Dixie, that totally shift is, it’s so awesome. I mean it’s, it really is. I can’t think of another word, you know, to get that area of a body in terms of how we age is so important because having good sexual relations is important in terms of lowering blood pressure. It’s an important, in terms of having good, good circulation, it’s great for releasing stress of any sort. And so it’s important it part of the body to keep by vital and out of pain. Certainly. Obviously it’s really important for your mind and your psyche and it’s just a part of being a healthy, vital person. Right?
Dr. Benson: Very important. And the fact that that so many people just shut it down because of some type of issue. Pain is so common. And even in men, you know, the P shot, the Priapus shot that I do for men, men that have Peyronie’s, which is a irregular shape of the penis, which happens a lot as men get older. Yeah. But that can also cause a lot of discomfort with sex. So the P shot, I actually inject your, their own pure pagan nature. All of everything I’m talking about in this interview, this discussion is about activating your own nature in your body and not interfacing something chemical, uh, to, to resolve an issue. So that’s pretty thrilling. Some men get great, great. Um, a great response to in terms of the girth of the penis, the length, the strength, and to also to straighten it out.
Dr. Benson: Cause it’s a very common thing that many men don’t know, but know that this is going to happen until it happens or who knows why. So sometime in a sexual position can cause Amanda all of a sudden have pain with sex. So this is something important to consider too. Excellent. So I know one more thing you speak about all over the country in your lecture about this, but it’s called P M F it’s FDA approved, but tell us a little bit about that. Okay. So it’s pulse, electromagnetic magnetic field technology. We’ve been using this a lot in our center. So I have a 4,000 square foot center, lots of different practitioners, and we have what’s called a body optimization system studio. One of our main therapies there is PEMF. So essentially what it is, it’s a Tesla technology that actually has Tessa corals in it. And it, again, getting back to the earth thing, it mimics those healthy frequencies.
Dr. Benson: So within like three to five minutes, you can take someone out of a pain situation when they’re in this field. So what we have here, we have math on every, almost every single table and again has like six tests of coils in it that has this technology called PMF. So when people getting their acupuncture or they’re doing a local treatment further there, shoulder pain or their back pain, it’s creating this healthy field. This, it’s helping to get one’s body’s electrical system working. So the biology and chemistry will work, will be activated to get someone out of pain to help with circulation, to help with moods. So it’s something, I’m a technology junkie girl right now enough so that I have 24 technologies in one room. Big biohacker girl. And this is my favorite, one of my absolute favorite, so people to know about that you can invest like very often it’s about 4,000 to $5,000 own a system like this in your home like so many of my patients do.
Dr. Benson: So you have 24 seven care. You know if you have a baby with colic on the weekend or your dog is, you know, gets, has a, has an injured leg, PM F is part of a very important part of many people’s home healthcare revolution. I have to say, this is not a big other big part of my message Joe in today’s world is that people need to have remedies. I mean anything from your ginger to your honey, you know, in your medicine cabinet or on your frigerator, but also to have these technologies, these healthy technologies that grounds you when you live in the 24th floor in New York city or you, you know, wake up in the morning and you have like major gastrointestinal problems and you’re not sleeping. PMF is something, it’s becoming a household name because so many people short of living, you know, like with an astronaut outfit and they need something to protect themselves from all of these frequencies that are causing a lot of anxiety, pain and depression.
Dr. Benson: So PMF, I want you, if you have not ever heard of PMF, just Google it. And if you happen to go to my website, you can look at uh, some of our technologies that we have in our body optimization systems studio. And it’s just something, again, people who have chronic pain, which are a lot of people in this country and internationally around the world, that to know that PMF is another solution. Something that you can invest in that can radically change the quality, the attitude of your life, but also the longevity. Great. And obviously the frequency is not something you can actually feel that it’s on, but it’s working but you can’t see it actually penetrating your body or anything. That’s a great question. Do you know I have a lot of very highly sensitive people who absolutely can feel it. So what we do is we can show our patients what’s coming out of it by putting a Gauss meter on a gas, maybe you push a button and you can actually hear these, this pulsating healthy frequencies.
Dr. Benson: This is what wills and dolphins and bees, all of nature thrives with this pulsating nature that activates healthy cells in the body. So you can actually hear it. So I can show my patients the difference between what a halogen light is emanating or what, what’s coming out of your outlets in your, in your wall or a cell phone as opposed to what’s coming out of a PEMF mat. It’s so, it’s creating resonance. It’s creating healthy frequencies in yourselves. So it’s like a party. But that’s the way for me to demonstrate this also outside of the gas meter is like when I have, um, you know, show like, uh, a handful of healthy grapes. You want yourselves to look juicy and circular and healthy and vibrant as opposed to like a bunch of dead raisins. Right? That’s what a lot of our cells look like when we’re in pain, when we’re endorsed all the time, when we’re depressed and when we’re dehydrated. So this is just the contrast. This is the goal. Anybody who wants to get into pain, you want to have healthy cells that look like grapes.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Great. I love the analogy of the grapes and the reason that that’s excellent. So tell us what you’re up to, dr Robert Manson. It’s been a great interview. You’re two on the healing pain summit, so tell us where people can find you, what you’re up to and how we stay connected.
Dr. Benson: Okay, well let’s see. Santa Fe soul center for optimal health. Here we are. I mean we literally, we have people from all over the country and internationally, internationally as well. They come here to get some of these cutting edge therapies and injections. Um, also you can see, visit my website for my center, which is Santa Fe, soul.com. My personal website is Robin benson.com. If you have any questions, we’re only a phone call away. And you know, you never know. I travel and speak a lot. So I would say, you know, just get on one of our newsletters and we’ll stay in touch.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Awesome. So I want to thank dr Robyn Benson for being on the healing pain summit for the second year in a row. If you like her interview, which I know you did, please make sure to share it on Facebook as well as Twitter. You’ll see the two icons there at the bottom of screen, so just click those, make sure to visit email@example.com and Santa face. so.com and she has one more thing she wants to mention.
Dr. Benson: Absolutely. My book, again, it’s called earthing electro sanitisation and growing your own garden. We have amazing speakers that are in that book. You want to read those interviews. There’s so much information. I have one in one of my interviews is there as well. Just to recap everything that I’ve shared in this discussion with all of you and to go much, much deeper. So take a look at that book.
Dr. Joe Tatta: Awesome. So download the book. She actually, yeah, nine experts in that book. So please download. It’s a great free gift that she’s given our community and stay connected. We will see you on the next interview on the Healing Pain Summit.